CatalystFor the Trades

Episode 80 · October 22, 2026

Hiring for the Trades: AI, Pay Transparency & Better Candidates

With Dan Fleisher

A qualified technician applies after dinner. How long will they wait to hear back? In this episode of The Catalyst for the Trades, Amy Fink steps into the guest host seat alongside Jennifer Bagley to talk with HireBus c…

Jennifer Bagley, Founder and CEO

Hosted by , with guest host Amy Fink, COO of Built By The Trades. 1 min read · Produced by The Catalyst for the Trades Podcast

Hiring for the Trades: AI, Pay Transparency & Better Candidates

Episode: Episode 80

A qualified technician applies after dinner. How long will they wait to hear back? In this episode of The Catalyst for the Trades, Amy Fink steps into the guest host seat alongside Jennifer Bagley to talk with HireBus co-founder Dan Fleisher about where contractors lose good candidates and how to get more of them to the interview.

Dan draws on HireBus’s analysis of 250,000 completed applications in the trades. In that dataset, applicants who came through a company’s careers page were hired at nearly twice the rate of Indeed applicants. Postings that included pay turned applicants into interviewees at roughly a 50% higher rate. The group discusses what contractors can do with those findings, from writing clearer job titles and publishing pay ranges to removing application steps that ask for work without helping the team assess fit.

Amy, Jennifer, and Dan also look at what happens after someone applies. They discuss using AI to send timely follow-ups, conduct initial phone screens, and schedule interviews while the team makes the hiring decisions. The conversation also covers what owners should ask a software vendor about security and access to their own data before adding another tool to the process.

Guest: Dan Fleisher

Dan Fleisher, Co-founder of HireBus

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